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Collywobbles
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:40:14 PM Quote
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Hi there

I was diagnosed with RA 8 weeks ago and am on hydroxychloroquine, amitryptyline and anti-inflammatories. I am a primary school teacher and went back at the beginning of the term but had to go off sick after a month as the pain and fatigue got too bad and my headteacher didn't seem to get it. Despite this, I keep thinking, "Is this real, or is the rheumatologist suddenly going to tell me they've got it all wrong and that I haven't really got RA?" Does this sound weird or make me seem really nutty? On one hand they've done x-rays, blood tests and examined me so I think it must be true, but on the other hand the rheumatologist wrote a letter to my GP indicating that it looked like I had RA (does this mean I have or haven't got it?).

It's really getting me down as I feel confused, plus frightened and worried about the future. Perhaps I'm in denial?

Has anybody else gone through this? Confused Help!

Katie
suzanne_p
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:02:56 PM Quote
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hi Katie,

when first diagnosed it is so hard to take in and accept that you have got it. if you read posts on the forum a lot of people's work colleagues etc. don't "get" RA and think it's just the odd ache or pain.

my diagnosis was pretty straightforward with my blood results, DAS Score and so on ..not quite sure why your Rheumatologist indicated that you may have it, unless that's his/her turn of phrase. the drugs you are on are certainly used for RA especially Hydroxy.

if it were me i would make an appointment with your GP, mine is so helpful and explains all to me, especially when i was first diagnosed .. he was the one i turned to inbetween Rheumaology appointments.

i think denial is par for the course as well as being frightened,

but once the drugs work for you there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Suzanne
misty
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:03:41 PM Quote
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Hi Katie,
It is very strange at first, and takes some getting used to. I went through various emmotions, from denial (which I still do from time to time), to being angry, and in the end acceptance. I read all I could about it, and this forum was an amazing find. I remember crying when I read some of the posts, as I was so relieved that others knew and described the physical side of this arthritis. Like you, I was also very frightened, but talking or asking questions on here helps, so keep posting as there is usually someone who can help or enlighten you. I initially had to take 6 months off sick from work, but with work making reasonable adjustments I have been able to continue, and it is coming up 5 years since I was diagnosed. So please try not to worry and rest when you can. Hope this helps and let us know how you go on.

Candy
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:08:39 PM Quote
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Hi Katie,
I was very angry when first diagnosed, I had tried to keep myself fit with regular exercise and eating a healthy diet. My husband has Parkinson's disease (he is a secondary school teacher) and we are not sure where his disease will take us, so I knew I needed to keep healthy to look after him.
I found this site a godsend and soon realised that I had got off fairly lightly compared with some people on here. My RA which was diagnosed earlier this year is fairly mild, I still have aches and pains and get extremely tired, I find it very difficult to pace myself, having been used to doing all the DIY, garden etc, I still believe I can carry on as before and then get exhausted like now.
I have doubted that I have RA on many occasion and expect I will carry on being doubtful, especially when I'm having a couple couple of days, then I remember back to how painful my fingers and feet were, even just lifting a cup of tea, or walking to the shops.
I'm on MTX and Hydroxy, only just added Hydroxy to my meds, so need to give it a couple of months to hopefully start working effectively.
There's always someone here to answer questions, or just to compare notes with. People are so friendly and helpful so don't be afraid to speak your mind, as they say a problem shared etc.
I hope your school are good to you and put in place anything that will help you with day to day teaching. It might be good for you to contact Access to Work, they came up with lots of suggestions to help my OH and will also contribute to some items needed to help you do your job.
All the best, let us know how you are getting on.
Mary x
Jane.
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:15:31 PM Quote
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Smile hello Katie
Welcome to the forum, you have come to the right place for a chat, help, advice and a huge group hug!

When I was diagnosed in 2007, I was shocked, in denial. Here I was a new mum with a baby so happy and on cloud nine with my bundle of scrummy newness!
Was also a strange time having hospital appointments for arthritis and thinking they have it so wrong! I still look back on life before ra with joy of what I used to do like running in the fields with the dogs playing hide and seek by the trees, step classes (was very fit)!! Boating holidays on the broads jumping ashore with the boat ropes to moor up. At least I have photos and memories!

Now, I'm good at the wii bowling, canoe and cycling on the wii - it isn't real exercise but what I can manage now and join in with the family. I'm always looking at ways of being able to do things my way.

What I'm trying to explain is its normal to be have lots of emotions taking this in, we all adjust in our ways but when I feel fine I forget I have ra but when I have a flare up like now and trying different medications I know I have arthritis!!

Like Suzanne said, not all bosses "get it". Mine superviser doesn't (I shall update the work thread tomorrow pm). Its awful in this day and age that bosses don't want to listen just hear what they want to.
Nras have a booklet for employers of employees with rheumatoid arthritis in the work place if that is any help? Are you in a union?

Be strong, look after yourself
Jane
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sylviax
#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:09:31 AM Quote
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Hi Katie - so sorry to hear of your recent diagnosis, and welcome to this forum. We're all in the same boat here so can relate to your feelings exactly. It's totally normal to feel disbelief, anger, confusion and loads of other emotions as well - this is big news that will take time to adjust to, plus of course you're in pain and suffering strange symptoms that come with RA so that makes it doubly hard to take it all in. Please feel free to vent off here - ask any questions you like - nothing is out of bounds (well there are some forum rules but they're just common-sense!).

I was diagnosed earlier this year, and I'm 54 with 4 teenage children and a normal, hectic homelife. I've always been fit and busy and worked full time, so it was awful when I started getting pains and swollen joints. My GP didn't recognise my symptoms and my blood tests were RA negative, so it took nearly 3 years before I got my diagnosis - by then I thought I was going mad!!!!!! But now I am on the correct treatment, all that has changed - I'm getting my life back and am even trying to go back to work, because I feel much, much better - so although this time is very frightening and confusing for you, there is light at the end of the tunnel. The new treatments that have become available in recent years can really work well and can prevent much of the damage that RA will cause if untreated.

You've been diagnosed quickly and that's good news (although I know it doesn't feel like that atm). You've also been given the right meds, but they will take time to have a full effect - lots of us here are on hydroxychloroquin (HDX) and anti-inflammatories. Your rheumy may also have mentioned other meds like methotrexate and dmards - we have lots of experience here about all sorts of meds, so please ask if you're in any doubts. RA can play havoc with your emotions so it's totally normal to take an anti-depressant like amitryptyline - I take citalopram, and although I feel so much better these days I still like the comfort I get from taking an anti-depressent.

Get lots of rest - and try to think positive thoughts - we're here for you - Sylvia xx
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JulieM
#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:12:24 AM Quote
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Hi Katie- wehat you're feeling is not 'weird' or 'strange' or 'nutty' it is perfectly normal. I have been diagnosed for a few years now and still sometimes say to myself "Have I got the right diagnosis"? - I don't know why that is.
I work in a primary schoolk (SEN Support Assistant) and an Upper school (Library Assistant) so I totally understand where you are coming from re pain and fatigue!
It is VERY early days for you yet and your meds probably haven't had time to kick in for you yet. Do you know you can ask for a steroid (depo) injection to help you while they kick in? Also NRAS do a very helpful booklet http://www.nras.org.uk/h...x?id=a0B80000005CJTZEA4 which tells your employers what it means to have RA and your rights re having time off for appointments etc. I went through this and highlighted all the things relevant to me and gave it to the school.
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:08:03 AM Quote
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katie hi, not alot to add to this but its real ok and its a long old journey you are on we all have been there but its your road now, this is the best place to vent off and have a cry or giggles god knows we do alot of that,be patient with yourself as tomorrow is another day,good luck and ASK dont just accept things,there will be lots to take in go at your own pace gather all the info, you have to learn what you have before it sinks in,its not the end of life girl,just another way round it,i believe arthur lives with me i dont live with it,cuddles to you,dorothy.
zena_mary
#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:03:57 PM Quote
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Hello Katie, I can totally empathise with how you are feeling. I used to teach infants, and know how busy life in the classroom can be.
Hopefully once the meds kick in you will feel a lot better and be able to get back to work. Yes, I would supply the school with as much info as you can. Hopefully you have understanding colleagues who will help and support you along the way.
I have had ra now for 5-6 yrs, and still hanker for the things I can no longer do. Some folk are far less affected by this disease than others though so keep possitive.
Zena x,
Naomi1
#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:52:45 PM Quote
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Katie, I can only reiterate what the others have said....that what you're thinking is very normal. I think most of us have questioned whether this can really be happening to us and wonder whether the diagnosis is wrong. I think you should ask your GP about your diagnosis just to get the facts straight in your mind as to how certain your diagnosis is. I would guess that they wouldn't have put you on hydroxy if they hadn't diagnosed you. Secondly I wanted to say that it's early days for you and there is a lot of scope for improvement as your drugs kick in fully and maybe other drugs are added to the mix. As for your employer, mine didn't 'get it' at first but she did go away and read up on RA and has been really supportive ever since. Maybe you could download some NRAS booklets for your bosses to read. You have rights now under the equality Act and 'reasonable adjustments' are required at work to support you in your employment. There is a government agency called 'Access to Work' which may be able to offer you support to help you with your job. They help to pay for my taxi fares to and from work but there are lots of different kinds of help available. I was diagnosed in September 2011 and my life is only just beginning to settle into a new kind of normal now. We are here to support you and answer any questions you may have. We've all been through it and will totally understand what you're feeling right now. Good luck from Naomi, X
heather1
#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:21:54 PM Quote
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Hi Katie, just to say what others have really, welcome to the site, it really is invaluable, such a life line! I know exactly how you feel, I felt total disbelief when I was diagnosed and felt various emotions over the next few months, ranging from anger, sorrow and pure frustration. I also "grieved" for the former me who could run around all day at work, come home, via the supermarket, make tea and then sometimes go out in the evening! that is a distant memory now and part of the process of coming to terms with this horrible illness we have is re-assessing your life, what you can and cant do. You'll find this site as I said before to be an invaluable source of knowledge, help and advice. Its so great to have a pool of people to talk to who know exactly what you mean and are going through. My family are wonderful and very supportive, and I am very lucky in having them, but as well as that its great to have someone here who will always help, advise or just sympathise and know exactly what you mean.

Be kind to yourself and rest, as others have said its early days.

Take care,

Heather xxxxxx
smith-j
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:59:33 PM Quote
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Hello Katie

Welcome to the forum but sorry you had to be diagnosed with RA to find us. Firstly you have come to the right place. Someone on this forum has been there and got the tee shirt for every problem you may encounter. Without this forum I would not have been able to get through the last three and half years since my diagnosis. They are a great bunch of people.

Denial? Yes I still go through that. To be told that I have a chronic incurable disease after years of pain was a relief but I still question the diagnosis when some days I can be fine and others in terrible pain. I think it is part of the fight or flight syndrome. We either face up to what is happening to us or we try and run.

You now need to go through a grieving process for your old life. Yes things will change and you must change them to get a good quality of life. Many of us on here are testament that there is life after RA, it just depends on how much you ask for support and how much you are willing to compromise.

As an employee the most important thing you can do for your employer is give them a copy of the NRAS Employer booklet which fully explains your condition to them and makes them realise they need to make reasonable adjustments with your job. You did not ask to get RA, you have a genuine illness and now it is time for them to support you to enable you to keep on teaching to the best of your ability.

Keeping on top of your medication is also another important route to you coping with RA. Take the pain killers even if you are not in pain at the regulated times so that you get a good level of pain management in your body. Do not let it drop and you will be suprised how much better you will feel. I am a devil for taking tablets but force myself to keep on taking them and even simple paracetemol taken to the maximum dose daily can work wonders.

You have entered a strange new world but you are not alone. Keep posting and asking questions as knowledge is a powerful thing as I am sure you will know being a teacher BigGrin

Take care

Jackie
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Julie191
#13 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:23:54 PM Quote
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Hi there Katie, I was diagnosed April 2011 and I am still finding it hard to accept that I have RA but joining this forum has helped me so much. I work as a teaching assistant in a primary school but have been off work for nearly 12 months as my legs are so bad. People don't really understand what RA is so I have found the best thing to do is read about everyones experiences here, all very different but all very helpful and off load when I need to. Accepting we have this is hard but I hope for you and me things will get easier and we will be able to control it and live with it in time. As Jackie says there is life after RA we just have to be patient and go with the changes it brings. Take care Julie Boo x
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#14 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:29:21 AM Quote
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Katie - if you need to talk - we're here for you - Sylvia xx
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Collywobbles
#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:45:46 PM Quote
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Thank you so much everyone for replying and giving me support and practical suggestions. Your kindness and support made me cry with the realisation that I’m not alone with this. Your understanding, reassurance and good advice have helped me stop fighting the RA and I’m beginning to accept it.

Suzanne, you were right about the rheumatologist’s ‘turn of phrase’ as when I saw him last Wednesday he confirmed I had got RA and all he meant was that my GP had referred me early on in the disease which meant the joint damage was limited.

It was a relief to know that I’m not alone in feeling frightened and that other people have experienced colleagues and friends ‘not getting it’ and the whole range of emotions that goes with this.

Since posting I have seen Occupational Health and they were fantastic. The adviser understood about RA and what I was going through. She also mentioned the Access to Work that you mentioned, Naomi, and Mary - that sounded like a good idea and has reassured me that I will be able to go back to work one day, even thought it doesn’t feel like it at the moment.

Thanks for the links to the booklets on the NRAS website, I’ve found them helpful and have emailed the employers’ link to my headteacher… here’s hoping it will make a difference.

The drugs still haven’t started working – I’m 9 weeks in so fingers crossed they will soon. When I saw the rheumatologist last week I felt very disappointed that there was no change to my blood results but from what everyone has said it’s early days. He said he could give me a ‘jab in the butt’ – I guess that’s the depo injection that you mentioned? But he decided against it and told me to forget going back to school this term. Gradually I’m getting used to the idea of rest, although it’s a bit of a challenge for me.

Thanks once again to all you lovely people who responded to my desperate plea.

Love Katie x
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:47:23 PM Quote
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hi Katie,

9 weeks into the drugs is still early days, from memory i was told a good 3 months, before another one was added to the mix.

but it's good you were diagnosed early to limit joint damage, that was the same for me.

yes the jab is the depo injection that can bring great relief, i haven't had one for about 18 months now.

it is hard to accept we have RA, i lost over half a stone in the week of diagnosis with the shock of it all. but keep positive and believe that things will get better and you can learn to live with it once the meds to their work.

keep posting we are all here to listen and support,

Suzanne x

Jane.
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Smile Hi Katie
Nice to hear from you.
Glad you have had appointment with rheumie, at least the meds are working magic inside - but its a slow process!

Not sure if you get copy of your hospital appointments with an outline/notes from your visits to rheumy department? I get copied into summary of my appointments with crp/inflamation scores that go to my docotor for scanning onto my medical notes.

I keep them all in a clear plastic sleeve in a wallet, and look at my scores from previous appointments. Helps me understand the recorded swollen joints and which is the most inflamed!
Then I think, is really me they are on about!!!LOL LOL

Enjoy your time off the best you can, its all about "me time"

Take care
Jane
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Collywobbles
#18 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:21:45 PM Quote
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Thanks Suzanne and Jane for your replies. I didn't know I could get a copy of the results so I'll ask about that when I see the rheumy again in 3 weeks time. I am trying, with difficulty, to stay positive as I seem to be getting worse at the moment but I think I'm not resting enough. Slowly, slowly I will get there I'm sure.

I really appreciate your support. BigGrin
Love Katie x
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You will Katie- I thought the world had ended for me when I was first diagnosed-it hadn't!
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#20 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:46:46 PM Quote
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Hi Katie - great to hear from you - things will get better!!! It must be such a relief to get signed off for 3 months - please take the time to really rest. And that means lying down and sleeping or relaxing on the sofa and watching telly!! It won't be forever, but right now your body needs all its strength to fight off the effects of RA. Let your meds work their magic - but it really does take much longer than you imagine at the beginning and I'd recommend having a "jab in the bum" or asking for oral steroids - anything to give some relief from the pain so you can actually relax.

In the meantime focus your thoughts on eating really well - lots of fruit and veg, you know all the usual advice!! If you need to lose weight or give up smoking then now is the time to summon up will power, because it will really help you later on. I joined Slimming world and lost 2 half stone and made loads of new friends (none with RA, but they were very kind when I was so poorly). And you've got the right idea about tackling stuff in new ways to minimise the effort. Depending on whether you have already sustained joint damage, you might find that you can recover all the mobility you once had, but you'll gradually find if gadgets can help you. For example, I found that hiking poles really helped when I was in total pain all the time, but now I rarely need them (only when going out on long dog walks!)

Keep sharing and best wishes - Sylvia
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